Thanks so much for the podcast. I’ve devoured each episode voraciously the past week and it’s been such a source of enjoyment. Your characterization of John is spot on. Definitely not some macho guy nor a sincere revolutionary. While I’ve had the same take on him for years as y’all, I’ve never connected the dots between his personality traits and the breakup. The sequence of events you lay out and your analysis of it MAKES SENSE.
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Congrats on Episode 3! I agree on your reading of the Ballad, and the how and why of its construction. I also remember in one of the first episodes, how you mentioned the way John would anticipate being rejected & preemptively push people away or offend them so he would not be the one passively abandoned (for no reason). John’s obsession with Paul hurting him, leaving him – it’s all a self fulfilling prophecy, isn’t it ? And he could never get over it. (1/2)
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Hi there, and thanks so much for the comment! 🙂 We’re glad you enjoyed Episode 3! I (Thalia) enjoyed it so much as well!
I’ve always thought it strange how the fandom and authorship just sort of accepted the idea that John and Yoko have some otherworldly love that we mere mortals just can’t understand, something more special than we could ever fathom. I always joked that they marketed themselves as the loveliest lovers who ever loved (in the history of love)! And that their art is so important, and of such a high purpose, that of course most people just aren’t high-minded enough to understand it.
I do agree that this myth was built by John and Yoko for multiple purposes: partially to promote them as a couple with a higher purpose and help him form a new identity and satisfy Yoko’s desire to be famous, and partially it’s what John had to tell himself to keep from feeling hurt (didn’t work) and to protect his public image (I don’t want to look like the dumped one, that’s embarrassing). I think Diana and Phoebe are also right in acknowledging that there was a love between John and Yoko, and that all these factors coexist.
But at the end of the day, John’s legacy was built within Lennon/McCartney, and you really can’t compare Lennon/McCartney to Lennon/Ono (and I think Ono knows this, which is maybe why she feels threatened to this day). They are two completely different kinds of partnerships. For this comparison to continue into present day is extremely unfair to McCartney (and to the Lennon/McCartney relationship).
Thanks so much for writing in! We hope you continue to join us!